Episode 7

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11th Jan 2025

Dr. Axa Yox - #7 - Jan 11, 2025

Embrace Discomfort to Transform Your Life | Neurostimulation Podcast ft. Dr. Axa Yox

In this compelling episode of The Neurostimulation Podcast, we are joined by the inspiring Dr. Axa Yox, a microbiologist and geneticist turned personal transformation expert. Dr. Yox dives deep into her unique approach to personal development, blending rigorous science with human potential. She discusses key concepts from her groundbreaking book, 'Stop Calling It Comfort Zone,' highlighting the importance of rewiring our thoughts and perspectives to foster positive change. Through insightful discussions, Dr. Yox provides practical strategies on how to start your day with positive intentions, understand the biochemical shifts in our bodies, and embrace discomfort as a catalyst for growth. This episode is a treasure trove of wisdom for anyone looking to optimize their health and wellness. Don't miss out on this transformative conversation!

Dr. Yox's book Stop Calling it Comfort Zone https://a.co/d/cO8YUhk

00:00 Welcome to The Neurostimulation Podcast

00:47 Introducing Dr. Axa Yox

01:45 The Power of Thoughts and Rewiring the Mind

06:40 Understanding Biochemical Shifts and Emotional Control

12:00 The Importance of Incremental Changes

28:36 Redefining Comfort Zones and Achieving Goals

35:31 The Role of Failure and Progress

46:36 The Compounding Effect of Positive Actions

47:52 The Secret to Inner Balance

48:15 Understanding Control and Expectations

48:54 The Power of Positive Emotions

49:04 Embracing Challenges and Hormetic Stress

51:52 Rewiring Your Brain for Positive Habits

53:18 The Importance of Consistency

01:07:23 The Role of Dopamine and Serotonin

01:09:15 Practical Techniques for Overcoming Dark Times

01:20:34 Turning Life's Unfairness into an Advantage

01:28:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Transcript
Mike:

Welcome to The Neurostimulation Podcast where we explore fascinating

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aspects of neuroscience and

clinical neurostimulation in order

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to optimize health and wellness.

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Today, we have a truly

exceptional guest joining us.

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I've really been excited

about today's episode.

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This is someone who seamlessly

blends the worlds of science

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and personal development.

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Please welcome Dr.

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Axa Yox, a microbiologist and

geneticist, now a leading voice

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in personal transformation.

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She's the author of the groundbreaking

book, Stop Calling It Comfort Zone,

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where she challenges conventional

wisdom and empowers readers to embrace

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discomfort as a catalyst for growth.

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Dr.

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Yox, welcome to the podcast.

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Axa: Thanks for hosting

me and happy new year.

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Let's make it as productive

as it's possible.

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Mike: Yeah, happy new year to you as well.

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Absolutely.

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I'm incredibly excited to have you here.

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You know, your unique perspective, which

is rooted in both rigorous science and

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a passion for human potential, perfectly

aligns with the mission of this podcast.

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So I know that our viewers and listeners

are eager to learn how they can apply

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your insights to enhance their lives.

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Axa: Yes, and everything starts from the

story that we keep reminding ourselves

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every single day, because how do we start

our day like we put the music on and we

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listen to the music, but we forget that

our thoughts are kind of the music that we

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keep replaying all over again and again.

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And unlike the music, which plays.

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On our radio or the cell phone,

which somehow we can unmute.

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If we decide that we don't like it, or

we can change the channel, but we forget

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that we need to rewire the music and the

thoughts that we have in our head as well.

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So, if you have, if you want to change

the story, if you want to have different

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results, you need to change the

thoughts that you start your day with.

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If you have the negative thoughts,

you will have the negative results,

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because that's how that's the lens

that you put on in the morning.

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And that's how you project the world.

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That's where what you see, because

let's say if you are thirsty

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and wherever you watch, you are

searching for the water, right?

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You will not search for something else.

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The same is with the thoughts.

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If they are negative, that's what

you will not attract because people

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confuse that the thoughts attract.

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No, it's just only, that's what you see

because everything exists in the world.

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It's not that the negative doesn't

exist when you just constantly

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think about the positive thoughts.

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Negative positive, it's how you

pursue the things, because something

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which is positive for me might

be completely negative for you.

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So the world exists out

of our perspective, like.

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just exist, whatever you focus on, that's

what will multiply in your daily life.

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And that's where you have to change

and remind yourself constantly with

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the crisis isn't, do I do it correct?

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Do I hit the target that I want?

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If I want happier life, then you have to

fill your day with the happy thoughts.

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because that's what multiplies

the energy within you.

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And then you just project it

out and you attract more people.

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That's how it works.

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Mike: I love it.

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I really appreciate your explanation.

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It makes so much sense.

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It really resonates.

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I think that in particular, the

idea of starting the day, you know,

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with very positive, intentional

kinds of thoughts that lead to the

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similar kinds of intentional actions.

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Because I've long been a proponent,

and I try to practice this myself, you

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know, and I try to suggest this for

friends, family members, and patients

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is that, you know, to really try and

focus on the day and look at the day

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as you know, a time when we wake up

and we have really all this potential,

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you know, on the one hand, there's a

lot that we try and pack into a day.

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But on the other hand, if we can try

and carve out even just a few minutes

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of silence, perhaps in the morning, um,

to Just allow ourselves to think about

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these things that you're explaining,

have some positive intention before,

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you know, we start checking our

phone and then thinking about all

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of the things that we have to do.

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I think it just sets us up for more peace

and productivity during the day, you

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know, maybe if you don't mind, can you,

um, explain a little bit more about that?

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Continue on with the thoughts around

what you're just explaining in terms of

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the positive intentionality, um, that

you're advocating to start the day.

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Axa: The words that we use will shape

where you will be during the day and

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every single day is the part of your life.

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So if you have negative vocabulary

and you keep repeating yourself,

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you associate the things or the

events with particular emotions.

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If you call the zone where you are

unhappy, Unhealthy and unfulfilled to

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be a comfort zone, you signal to your

brain that being unhappy, unhealthy

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and unfulfilled is comfortable for you.

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Whatever you have in that zone, you

have on the list as you accepted

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the reality to be fine for you.

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Unless you change how you see the

comfort for yourself, you will never

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quit because you will start very high,

ready to change anything, but then you

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will slide back to your comfort zone.

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Why?

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Because human body has three levels.

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Where we are controlled and we

are controlled by our emotions.

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So the first lab, because whenever,

you know, the levels that our system,

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the human body is a closed system.

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So whatever you, it's kind of the

triangle, whatever you put in, it will

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affect and you will have the outcome.

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So we've seen that triangle.

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What is the most important is

not, is not only what you put in.

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In you have the outcome is the state,

which is the top of the triangle, because

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if you were, you have been stressed for

particular period of time, then even

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if you start the positive emotions in

the morning, it will not really change.

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That's why people slide right

back in their comfort zone

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because they think that.

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Oh, I will have some nice music

or I will watch some nice video.

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I will have some nice talk with

a friend and things will change.

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No, we have three levels of our

biochemical shift that happens.

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So the first is the hormones and it is

designed by the nature to keep us safe.

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So there is no one can control the

production of the hormones because

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that's the first reaction of our

emotion for any outside, uh, trigger,

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whether it's emotion, whether

it's three, how you pursue that.

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If there is a high noise and you, in

your mind, you associated the high noise

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with the threat, you would be threatened.

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If you think that the high,

Temperature is harmful for you.

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You will start the day with,

Oh, it's so hot outside.

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The other person would

be like, it's so hot.

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I can go to the ocean.

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You see the same temperature.

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It's how you see that's the, the peak,

that's the state where you are and how you

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associate the second level is the reaction

based on how your hormones shift, and it

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is, um, triggered by the, um, nail roll.

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Neuro mediators because your

brain assess the situation

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and it gives you the reaction.

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This is.

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What you feel the break for the pattern

starts between the second and the

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third level, even if you associate

the Stimuli or anything that happened

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during the day or at that particular

moment With the negative emotions and

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you triggered all this spiral of the

negative Consequences you remember all the

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negative things that happen to you like

the The obstacles, whatever you are going

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through, every person is very individual.

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So you have still the option to break

the pattern between the second level,

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which is the first reaction that your

body reacts like, Oh, that's, that's bad.

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That's, you have to get out of

there or, uh, people can harm

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you and start the production of

beneficial, uh, neurotransmitters.

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Okay.

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Assess the situation.

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It's not very positive at this moment,

but I have the power to take it over

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and change it, change how I see it,

because that's the interesting word that

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I learned lately, and it changed how I

see everything, and it was very powerful.

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Very good for me because I used to, uh,

say the word control, control, control.

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We are all about think about the things

that you can control things about the

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things that you cannot control, right?

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Even the quad comes with the word,

which gives you this false impression

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that you can control anything.

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And then you falsely believe that.

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Oh, if I can control something,

then I can control something else.

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There is nothing that we can control.

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Nothing, not even our emotions.

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We can influence them.

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So when you change this one tiny word.

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From control to influence, then you level

up to the second level, and then you are

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working between the second and the third.

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Okay, that's the habitual emotional

response from my body because I was Living

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in that habitual emotions, and that's

the trigger that your body gives because

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you build that habit over the decades.

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You cannot break it in one day.

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No one can that let's remember that

if you go to one seminar and you learn

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all the possible techniques still, it's

not going to happen in one day that

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you will break your, uh, old habits.

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Why?

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If you, uh, had the meal yesterday.

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Are you going to eat today?

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Are you going to eat tomorrow?

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Are you going to eat one week later?

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The same is with the motivation.

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You cannot motivate yourself, change

the thoughts, be very positive.

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And then within the months, uh, it's fine.

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You're still there.

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No, you have to constantly remind

yourself and check the music

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that you play in your head.

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Is it shifting slightly

towards the, again, the.

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Old habits, which were

built for over decades.

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Let's don't, don't never underestimate

the compounding effect that your

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negative thoughts have in your body.

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The same supposed to be

for the positive emotions.

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If you just thought the positive thing

today, it didn't compound enough, not

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only to cover all the effect that you had.

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built for over decades.

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The secret and the key here is not only

to, um, to have more, uh, beneficial and,

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uh, productive and positive thoughts.

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It's also to remove the negative.

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Because the negative already has

the base is the is solid ground

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that you created over the decades

and even tiny drop that goes to the

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negative, it compounds faster than if

you add 10 drops to the positivity.

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Let's call it base tank, whatever you

call it, because remember, whatever you

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experience during the day that has the

potential to compound over the time.

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So, the one drop in the

negative, it still compounds.

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We need, consequently, Stop eating

our negative thoughts together with

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multiplying the positive thoughts.

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That's where you are between

the second and the third layer.

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That's where the magic happens.

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Only when you Break.

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If you stay on the second layer, if

you stay between the first and the

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second, like the natural emotions,

they trigger the shift in your

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biochemistry, which no one can influence.

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And the second, which is your habitual

emotions, which trigger this, the

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entire spiral that you just go the

rabbit hole down the rabbit hole.

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You will just multiply and

compound from what you already had.

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You have to level up from the second

and the third, and that's where the

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break of the pattern can happen.

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Mike: Yeah, no, that's fascinating.

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Thanks so much for explaining that.

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I really like this notion of.

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The importance of the words because

words without our knowing the words can

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really cause us to, you know, shift one

way or another in terms of our emotions.

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And I really appreciate the distinction

that you emphasize between control

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and influence, you know, because

I think I really agree with that.

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I think the influence word is

much more healthy and it aligns.

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I can see why you chose that

because it really aligns well with

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the model that you've developed

and that you're describing.

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So, maybe, if you don't mind, can you

explain a little bit more about, um,

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Oh, the other thing that I was just

going to point out as well that I really

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appreciated is this notion that you just,

just there described at the end about how,

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you know, the, the, you know, for every,

say, one drop of energy going in, You know

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to the negative emotions that are a lot of

our automatic thoughts are kind of geared

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towards Um that we have to put in that

extra say 10 drops towards the positive

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Thoughts to counteract that, you know,

that really makes sense in terms of what

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we know about how humans are kind of wired

In order to, you know, there's this notion

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of, as you know, that the harm aversion,

you know, in terms of our evolution, you

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know, we're wired to be more, uh, sort

of alert for, for, um, potential dangers.

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And so we're sort of more biased towards

defaulting to, uh, you know, a harm,

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harm, aversion kind of stance in terms

of the potential threat that exists.

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Right.

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And so I think that

there's an evolutionary.

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Um, in terms of how our, our

neurobiology is, is wired.

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There's an evolutionary reason why a

lot of our negative thoughts seem to be.

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kind of the baseline, you know,

or the default setting, and even

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more reason why we have to be very

intentional about positive thoughts.

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Not in a, not in an artificial or sort

of Pollyanna ish way, but, you know, in

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a way to sort of have a healthy appraisal

of what our environment actually entails

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in terms of threat versus opportunity

and how that all plays into the way

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that we can influence, not control,

influence our emotional state and guide

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us more in towards the positive emotion.

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Um, so maybe if you don't mind

explaining, I love the, um, the

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imagery and the model that you've

developed and that you're explaining.

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Would you, um, Would you mind explaining

a little bit more about the levels in

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terms of the second and third level?

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Would that make sense at this

point to elaborate on that?

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Axa: Yes, absolutely.

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Let's, let's try with, because people

are very focused on finances, so

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it would be very easy to explain.

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Let's say over the decade with

adding once a dime per day, you

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came to compound it to one million.

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You have one million in your,

on your deposit for the negative

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emotions or the negative reaction

for whatever happens in your life.

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And you'll start to create

this positivity, a balance, and

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you'll start again with one dime.

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So if you add one dime to already existing

1 million, the compounding for the next

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one second day, it's higher than the

compounding of, even if you add 10 dimes

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on the positive deposit, you will still

have the next day less than the negative.

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That's why it's very essential to stay

And never go down, never level down to

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be between the first and the second line,

because that's where your old limiting

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beliefs and the habits are formed.

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You reinforce them.

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You just feed the negativity without

even realizing, because, um, you

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need to level up and realize.

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Where is the influence that

you can, uh, you can be, be

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present, be focused every second.

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I know in the very beginning, it

could be exhausting, but if you are

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up to change your life, then It takes

time, the same, it took time for

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decades to create a negative emotion.

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You need now, uh, more energy to

break the old limiting beliefs.

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But the difference here is that you do

cautiously and this is where the power is.

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Because if you do something

unconsciously, there is no power,

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it's control, it's, it's influenced.

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You But the cautious is stronger.

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That's why humans are dominating

special on the planet because we use

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our cautious to completely transform

everything in the environment.

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The same you can do for your life.

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Every time when you have any thought,

thought is the energy when you

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create the energy, the, the balance

shifts towards that, whether we

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want, or we don't any emotion trigger

the shift in our biochemistry.

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And the key is that normally people

think, oh, okay, I thought the negative

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thought and the next second, I will

shift it to seeing the positive

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and then everything will be fine.

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Completely transformed in my life.

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It's not exactly the way as it is.

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As I said, I said, the life,

the cycle is the close triangle.

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So the state, which is at the peak, if you

keep feeding the negative thought, it's

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not going to change your biochemistry.

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Doesn't change us only

simply in one second.

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I decided to change it

and then it will shift.

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No, your body's.

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still keeps producing the biochemistry

responsible for the negative thought

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that you had, and your body state

starts to shift towards that.

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So now, if you want to transform,

you don't only have to bring it back.

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Back to the initial, um, zero

point, but also you have to

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shift it towards the positive.

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And that's what you can practice

every single day in the morning.

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Decide what is the outcome

that you want and try to.

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Eliminate the negative

thoughts at least for 10%.

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That's where the compounding

starts because we always see the

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bigger picture and we think that

we can approach it in one day.

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No one can.

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Even when you start to lose the weight,

you start to lose the weight with

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one pound a day, unless you want to

really, uh, completely ruin your health.

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The same is with the positive emotions.

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If you screwed up one day and you

had really very bad day, that's okay.

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We're all humans.

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We're living the every single day

with all the noise and all the

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stress that exists in the world.

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Um, it can happen that some days

could be worse than the other one.

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But what is different that adding step

by step the positive thoughts And start

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to compound the positive in three, four,

six months, only then you will start

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to feel the difference because people

normally they do meditation for one month.

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Nothing changes.

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So they are like, it doesn't work for me.

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No, he's not that it doesn't work for you.

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The, the learning curve, you're just on

the learning curve because you learned.

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Let's say you learn the meditation

from the professional, right?

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But you learn their way.

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Now you have to transform the lessons

that you learned and find your way.

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So the beginning three, four

months, it's you are on the

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learning curve and your body is.

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Is not sure if you are

going to continue as well.

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You still have the already the base,

which was built over the decade.

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You are whenever you try to

do something new, you are.

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Between the first and the second layer,

anything new, because you just build

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a new, uh, um, uh, uh, the, the habit,

so you establish the base and then your

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body has to understand, is it beneficial

for me and your body is confused.

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Is it beneficial for me?

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And if you keep telling, let's

say you want to make meditation,

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uh, the, the process, like the

habit for the daily life, right?

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So you start the, uh, meditation.

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It's very new for you.

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So you establish the link between

the first and the second layer,

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and you keep reminding yourself,

Oh, it doesn't work for me.

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It doesn't work for me.

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So the melody that you play in your head.

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That's what your brain

will link meditation to.

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Oh, it doesn't work for me.

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So every time when you start to

meditate and that's the emotion

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you feel like you start to breathe.

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And you keep reminding yourself,

it doesn't work for me.

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So your brain will write over the

meditation, the story that you tell

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meditation doesn't work for me.

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Breathing doesn't work for me.

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And then when you are in stress

and somebody advise you, uh, do the

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breath, uh, deep breathing, you would

be like, okay, but the brain, which

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is below your thoughts that you are,

you are trying to overwrite already

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have the story that you said before.

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So it's it hops in immediately in

one second between the first and the

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second layer, and you are stuck there.

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You need to get out of that layer.

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The magic transformation happens.

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Only between the second layer and the

third, and this is cautious when you

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cautionally guard every single thought

and you realize, is it beneficial for me?

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Can I influence what is the outcome if

the outcome is something that you can

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influence with the particular process

or adding any, um, Um, new habit or

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just following, um, the new patterns.

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That's when you rewire your brain.

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And another thing is when, if you have

some, uh, let's say you think about the,

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the, uh, the meditation, all the links

that you created around the meditation,

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they are not only about the meditation.

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They are also linked to everything

which you link the meditation to words.

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So, if you have meditation is about the

silence and about not thinking or anything

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that you already have in your brain.

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Linked to silence, they come up

as they are activated as well.

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That's why you have all this multi layer

functional pattern which activates the

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parts of your brain you were not aware of.

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emotions which are new for you.

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Uh, and, uh, you don't know how to react,

but practice brings the awareness and

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it keeps just, uh, rewiring your brain.

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And the rewiring happens only

when you just unlink everything

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that already was not, uh, serving

you and you create the new ones.

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It happens through the time.

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The component effect is on not

only for the material things is

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for our emotions as well, because

the biochemistry is material.

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Don't forget that biochemistry is real.

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We produce the biomolecules that affect

how we feel, how we act and how we.

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Thanks for explaining that.

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I love this notion of the incremental,

like in going from the first level to

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the second level, the importance of the

incremental changes, you know, especially

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at this time of the year with so many

people making New Year's resolutions.

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I think that often, as you say, you

know, people encounter these barriers to

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making healthy changes in their day to

day living, partly because they probably.

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overestimate the degree to which that

they would be able to make changes.

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themselves enough space to make

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these small incremental changes.

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Maybe they try to change too much all at

once, and then they feel disappointment.

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And as you say, you know, they're

experiencing exactly what you're

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explaining and having that

difficulty in getting from the

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first level to the second level.

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Um, you know, it makes me think that

in your book, Stop Calling It Comfort

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Zone, I was really impressed that

you're challenging conventional thinking

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in many ways about comfort zones.

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So would you mind explaining how

does stepping outside of our comfort,

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our comfort zones, how does that

actually benefit, you know, brains

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and overall well being in line with

the model that you're explaining?

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Axa: It's more about To change

how you see the comfort zone.

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So it's not about stepping out of

the comfort zone because if you keep

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associating where you are and you are

unhappy to be a comfort for you, you will

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sabotage yourself because your brain reads

that that's the level that you want to be.

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That's your comfort zone.

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You, uh, but whenever you flip

and you see being unhappy, Be

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to be uncomfortable for you.

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That's when you will

quit your comfort zone.

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Not if you keep calling being

unhappy is comfortable for me.

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When you change the lens, how you see

the world, that's how you will continue.

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Being unhappy is uncomfortable for me.

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That's when you will quit being

unhealthy is uncomfortable for me.

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That's when you will start eating

healthy, doing not fulfilling,

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living, not fulfilled life.

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It's uncomfortable.

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I'm not doing the progress, but if

doing not progress is comfortable

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for you, you'll slide right back

in one month, because that's the

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difference between when you leave.

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is the nature designed level to

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protect you, to keep you safe.

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The nature didn't design us to be happy.

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That's a very well set a phrase yet.

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The difference is that the nature

didn't design us as well to live.

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This long, the nature didn't design us to

be unhappy because somebody didn't like

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our social post or the picture or somebody

didn't call me back, didn't text me back.

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I did.

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I don't have a Ferrari.

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I don't have now.

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Nature didn't create us to react

to the external world when it's not

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threatening to kill us as the We will die.

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That's where the, uh, you can change

when you change how you react, not how

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you react, because if it is negative,

you have to react the negative, but

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the intensity, if it's not going to be

harmful for you, don't react like it's

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the end of the world, react accordingly.

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And then you can change and, uh, make the.

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What you associate the comfort with the

things which are beneficial for you.

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Otherwise, you will start and you

will end your year the same year

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with the same list of the goals.

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The resolution doesn't work.

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Why?

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Because.

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You and, uh, correct me if I'm wrong

when you have the goal, but you keep

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reminding and, and you are stuck with

your excuses, what shaped your destiny?

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Is it the goal or is the excuse?

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So if you have the goal as a

focus, you will achieve the goal.

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If you have the excuse that blocks your

path to achieve the goal, the excuse

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shift your destiny, not the goal, because

let's say you want to lose the weight.

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That's the goal.

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But what do you keep what the melody

do you keep reminding yourself?

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Oh, the gym doesn't work.

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The diet doesn't work.

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Um, I tried everything.

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It didn't work.

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So that that's not the goal that's

the excuse and that's You have

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to have the lens for everything.

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If you want to see the progress, you need

to change how you see the progress, not

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how you see the path towards the progress,

because the path might be very long.

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So instead of having to do list.

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You have to have also to complete

the list because we start our

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day with the to do list, but we

forget one thing on our to do list.

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We have the goals, which

cannot be completed in a

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particular period of the time.

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Right?

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And then we transfer the same

list over and over and then.

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Your brain doesn't read.

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Oh, okay.

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I still need your brain reads.

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I still need to do the

same then it doesn't work.

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So you rewire already your to do

list as impossible to achieve.

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You need to chunk your, uh, bigger

picture into the smaller pictures.

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And together with the to do list, you

need to have to complete the list.

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Then when you will make the progress,

because if you are busy to do the

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things you are just busy to do

the things there is no relation

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relation between being busy and being

productive, but to complete the list.

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It keeps reminding you.

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Oh, I don't do.

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I don't have to do.

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I have to complete and

then your brain reads the.

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The action differently because

then it will give you perspective.

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No, you don't need to do.

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You need to complete.

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Please complete it.

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Then you will set different

goal and you will realize that.

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To complete this, that task might

take longer and the next day when you

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see the same task on your list, you

are like, yes, I need to complete.

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That's why it takes longer.

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But to do your brain

reads, it doesn't work.

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And then you just keep in this loop of.

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Not realizing why your list doesn't

change from where, uh, from year to

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year, from year to year, because you

have the excuses which you focus on

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and they shape your destiny, not your

goal shifted, shift, how you see the

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progress, how do you see the failure?

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Many people say, okay, what if I fail?

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If you see the failure trying and not

hitting the target, you will fail all

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the time because first of all, you

are the person who set the target.

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I didn't set the target for yourself.

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So you can, you can put

the bar a bit lower.

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And exactly as you said, when you

don't over estimate what you can

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do, we've seen, uh, let's say one

month particular period of the time.

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Don't overestimate and

don't underestimate.

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Make the goals to be more realistic,

set the bar correctly, hit the goal.

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Not below your potential, because then

you will never grow, but not higher.

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Because if you miss the target all the

time, you will discourage yourself.

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It's obvious.

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We are all humans.

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Let's don't forget the

progress people who progressed.

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It's not that they, they were lucky

or they did something different.

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They just set the realistic goals.

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And once you hit the goal,

then it gives you this target.

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Perspective.

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Oh, I can.

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I can.

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I can.

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And then you just keep going.

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So make that and shift

how you see the filler.

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For me, the filler was never hit

the goal and not hitting the goal.

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It was not doing anything.

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That's the filler for me because

I find to be embarrassed.

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I tried.

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I didn't, it didn't work.

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It didn't work.

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It didn't work for me because at

that particular period of my life,

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I didn't have some skill, but now

the filler is the sometimes is

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the best thing that you can do.

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Why?

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Because it draws the boundaries and

the limits where and your potential.

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experience and where you

have to extend your skills.

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So what can be done in some

cases you draw the, the border,

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which you shall never cross.

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So the failure can have

different, um, tonality as well.

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Sometimes it's yes, where you, You have

the option to go further, to grow, to

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progress better and yeah, and in some

cases, oh, okay, here is the limit.

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I cannot cross it.

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So, uh, see the world a bit differently.

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From different angle, because even the

six and nine from different angles,

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they have very different experience

for people who see the number.

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The same is for us.

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If you see the failure and the

comfort as something which is

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okay, that you don't benefit.

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You will stay in your comfort

zone and never progress.

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Just change it.

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Mike: Mm hmm.

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Yeah, no, it's so interesting.

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I mean, there's so much there.

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And a few points that

resonate for me really is the

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importance of the definitions.

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You know, one of my best English teachers

in school was really always emphasizing

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the importance of definitions, right?

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And so, By, you know, your focus on

reframing the definition of comfort zone.

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I think it's very important.

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You know, I see a lot of

people in practice, and I

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think it's really important.

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Probably a universal phenomenon that,

um, there are reasons why unconsciously,

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I think most people deal with a lot of

feelings like guilt and shame, probably

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from, because, you know, as kids, we

were all very vulnerable and helpless

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and, um, Frankly, you know, not very

good at anything, you know, and and that

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brought a lot of emotional baggage that

we still carry around, you know, so I

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think a lot of people probably struggle

unconsciously with feelings like guilt

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and shame and so then they maybe feel

like what their comfort zone is, you

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know, is, is that they don't deserve.

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To be happier, they

don't deserve to succeed.

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And so maybe they have a tendency

to self sabotage and give up on

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their dreams and give up on their

goals prematurely, you know, or set

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the bar too high in an unconscious

sort of self sabotaging kind of way.

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So it strikes me that, you

know, your emphasis on.

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the reframing and, and really thinking

carefully about how a person is defining

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their own concept of comfort zone,

you know, taking ownership of that.

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And then, as you're explaining, being

able to influence these things in a

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healthy way, in an incremental way.

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And also using the importance of the

challenges that people are facing

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from day to day, not, not as something

that reinforces an unhealthy notion

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of, oh, I don't deserve this or

that because of these unconscious

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feelings of guilt and shame.

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That are help that are sort of pulling

us down and preventing us from achieving

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our dreams and goals, but really helping

us to get to the point where, as you

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say, you're, you're, you're, you're

transcending this 1st and 2nd level and

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getting up to the 2nd and 3rd level of

your model, which is really what sounds

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to me like we're all the magic happens

once you get that momentum in terms

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of your incremental improvement and

your daily habits and your, you know,

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Hopefully being able to reframe and,

you know, kind of build yourself a more

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of a healthy and realistic definition

of comfort zone or what your goals and

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aspirations are, then that momentum should

start to, instead of the negative kind

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of downward spiral, then it should start,

you know, going in the opposite direction,

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more of a virtuous positive cycle.

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Axa: And I like that you

tapped back to our childhood.

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So, um.

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That we were kind of, uh, trying

and failing and, but still.

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Even in our childhood, when

we started to work, right?

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You failed many times.

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You failed to write, you failed to do

any, uh, math or biology, chem, anything.

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You failed.

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But we kept going.

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Why?

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Because we were conditioned

that we have to.

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So whatever is have to, you did.

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What does it show that if you have

the list for, Oh, I have to do that.

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And it's possible to achieve.

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It's not only what you have to do.

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Because when you go to the school, no

one tells you, Oh, it's possible that

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you will never learn to, uh, write.

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It's possible you will

never learn to read, right?

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When you go to school, it's unconditional

preposition that you will learn to

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read, you will learn to, uh, write.

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So you already have the list.

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What?

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To expect and, uh, no one tells you

that when you go to school, no one tells

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you, you are going to write perfectly.

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No, they tell you, you are going to

write, you are going to read perfectly.

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No, that's why there is a great

expectations when they are met.

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Then you are like, yeah, they, they

promised, uh, the, the promise, uh,

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happened, but no one promised you

and the expectation that you have

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over the failure and the trying.

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And that's where your

conditioning started.

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When you were a child, because what

you hear from your environment, this is

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how you shape the vision of the world.

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If you grow up in the environment

where trying, failing, and then

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they would be like, stop it.

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Don't do it.

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When you, uh, transition to your adult

life, that's how you will see the

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failure because top, it didn't work

first time, second time, just stop it.

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That's not for you.

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But if you saw the environment where

you grew up and you were conditioned,

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no, it's the lesson you have to learn.

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You have to progress.

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You have to move at anything, which when,

wherever you have the progress Where your

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expectation and the efforts that you,

uh, spend to hit that target, they meet,

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that's when you say, Oh, I am perfect

at that while your potential actually

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has higher, uh, possibility, but you

put the bar lower than your potential

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doesn't mean that you cannot change it.

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Step by step, you go higher, higher,

some people People can stop somewhere in

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between and they say, I'm fine with that.

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And that's also fine.

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It doesn't mean that you, all people

have to grow to their full, not full

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potential, but still, I mean, like become

influencer, let's say, or to go to sport.

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I don't want to be in sport.

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It doesn't mean that I don't have

the potential if I would ever try it.

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Right.

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Because we are all created in the

same way, but that was not my goal.

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That was not my focus.

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So I never developed those skills

to be in, um, sport versus I have

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all the skills to be in science.

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What the person in sport doesn't.

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So we are complimentary to each other.

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That's why every person has

a unique place in the world.

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Every person brings something

unique to the complete picture, and

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we add the colors to the picture.

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We also need the negative emotions.

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Why?

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Because when you see the world only

through the positive, um, reason and

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something happens, you are not ready.

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You're like, I was not expecting

that life is not all about the

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celebrating or winning or progressing.

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No, where there is a

birth, there is a death.

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You have to be ready

for the sadness as well.

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You have to be ready because as

you grow up, you start to get sick.

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It doesn't mean that,

Oh, I didn't expect that.

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Okay.

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No one expected, no one expected AI.

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10 years ago, we didn't expect AI.

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Before we had the cell phone, no

one expected to have the cell phone.

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Then you could call the

person wherever you were.

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You could be completely on the

other side of the world, but you

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could, uh, contact the person.

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Now we have computer in our pocket.

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The where you are at this

moment doesn't mean that you

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cannot end up somewhere better.

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And by the way, it doesn't mean

that you cannot sleep and go back.

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So you have to cautiously remind yourself

that what is the path that you want to go?

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What is the end goal?

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What is the to do list?

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What is to complete list?

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Chunk the bigger picture

into achievable steps.

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And you will see how

your life will change.

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If you tell me drink one ocean, I

would be like, I can never drink.

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A sip a minute, you will drink the

complete ocean during your entire life.

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That's the compounding and whatever you

compound, that's what you will harvest.

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That's where the.

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Because whatever the

input is the triangle.

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The input, the state and the outcome.

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If you input the positive, but

your state is in negative, then the

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outcome would be not very positive.

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If you input negative, but you

are in positive state, your

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outcome is going to be positive.

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That's the secret.

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That's the beauty.

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That's the magic that change

your, uh, inner balance.

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What do you want?

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What you can influence and

what can influence you.

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Mike: Don't

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Axa: allow the negative to influence

you take control over again.

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Control.

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I S I'm still working on eliminating

the control because I was conditioned

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that I can take the control, right?

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Even the saying is like, uh, uh, you

need to know what you can control.

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You need to know what you cannot control.

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That's everywhere.

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And we are conditioned

that we can control.

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And then.

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When you don't meet your expectations,

um, the frustration starts because you

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are like, okay, other person can, I can't.

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It means that I can this, I can this.

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And then you go the complete spiral

for your old limiting billions

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that you created for over decades.

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Compounds what you start today.

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It will compound tomorrow.

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Start compounding the positive emotions.

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Mike: Right.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Absolutely.

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No, I mean, I love this idea of

the importance of challenge, you

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know, and, and challenge in terms of

growing through challenges, right?

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You know, it reminds me of, I really

enjoy going hiking, you know, and

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I think it's, it's kind of a really

beautiful metaphor in so many ways.

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Because if you break it down, you

know, You think, okay, well, in

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some ways I kind of don't feel like

going through the effort, right?

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And then you could think that, well,

if you, you know, you just take one

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step, you know, you take one step up the

trail, you know, and then the next one.

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And then, you know, maybe you slip

and then you feel like, okay, I'm

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going back a bit, or, you know, you

drop something and then you realize

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you have to go back down a bit.

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So then you do that and you're going,

you're going one step, you're feeling

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tired, you don't want to do it, you

take a rest, you carry on one step at

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a time, then finally you get to where

you're headed and you have a beautiful

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view, you know, or you have a beautiful

swim in, you know, in a lake, right?

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So, Yeah, I mean, this, this notion of

challenge and meeting challenge and,

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you know, the whole topic of hormetic

stress, you know, hormetic, H O R M E

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T I C, hormetic stress as, you know,

there's a lot of research these days

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that's showing that exposure to things

like, you know, cold water, fasting,

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you know, the fact that just exercising,

whether it's hiking or working out or

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whatever, strengthens our muscles and

our mind and makes us more resilient.

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And so hormetic stress really is

something to me that speaks to this

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notion of, you know, just pushing the

boundaries of comfort zones in order

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to progress and improve, to help us to

achieve optimal health and wellness.

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:

So, yeah, it's all super interesting.

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Axa: It's very interesting because,

um, actually the cold water or anything

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which is out of the scope of your daily

routine that you go through, it's,

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Extreme stress for your body, and it's

an, it's a notch for your system to reset.

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Why?

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Because when we are in chronic

situation, whatever chronic situation

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is, whether it's when it's negative,

it's horrible, even if it is positive.

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When you stress your body, you, um, you

restart the system because the stress

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was created by the nature to wake you up.

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Stress is not, uh, a horrible thing.

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It's not negative.

737

:

It's, um, the positive

if you use it correctly.

738

:

So if you keep reminding

yourself, the same again would

739

:

happen with those practices.

740

:

If you tell yourself, cold water is

stress for me, stress is bad for me.

741

:

I don't, you can never

survive in a cold water.

742

:

And in one month, give it the time.

743

:

Six months, you will be

back in your comfort zone.

744

:

It doesn't matter the same.

745

:

Like people start to eat healthy

and in one year, they slide back.

746

:

People quit smoking, they

write a slide right back.

747

:

Why?

748

:

Because you didn't rewire and you

didn't rewire your brain correctly.

749

:

Because again, you create the new

habit and you start to link everything

750

:

around that new habit as positive.

751

:

Cold water is positive, you create it.

752

:

If there is one attribute

which was previously linked.

753

:

Any way to negative thing,

let's say a cold is cold for me.

754

:

It's not good.

755

:

It doesn't matter.

756

:

So, if you have that link back to

negative, you will slide right back.

757

:

You have to rewire everything

which is around the new habit and

758

:

create it in the positive way.

759

:

Then you will sustain it.

760

:

How to do that?

761

:

Every single day, that's when people

think, Oh, I, I created the new habit.

762

:

Okay.

763

:

How often do you create, do you think,

Oh yeah, I created it six months ago.

764

:

Okay.

765

:

You're going to slide right back

because how often do you eat?

766

:

How often do you breathe?

767

:

Every single minute, the oxygen

that enters your body completely

768

:

changes your biochemistry, right?

769

:

The same is the habit.

770

:

Okay.

771

:

If you don't sustain it, whatever

you don't sustain will compound.

772

:

So if you don't sustain the positive

emotion, it will compound and

773

:

zero multiplied to any number in

the world, it will become zero.

774

:

If your positive reinforcement for

a particular positive habit is zero,

775

:

it will never, it will compound zero.

776

:

It will not compound.

777

:

It will compound the zero.

778

:

And if you have attachment that,

um, your name, the positive habit,

779

:

the new habit is anyway, negative,

you'll compound the negative as well.

780

:

And then through the

time, depending on the.

781

:

Life situation, we all go through the

ups and downs and the downs in the

782

:

last years are more than the positive.

783

:

So, once you're tapping into that

level between the 1st and the 2nd, you

784

:

will go right down the rabbit hole.

785

:

Period.

786

:

No person is strong enough.

787

:

To stop it.

788

:

The successful people, they

don't stop the negative thought.

789

:

They reinforce the link between

the second and the third period.

790

:

This is where the transformation happens.

791

:

If you think that the, uh, People

successful people don't have the link

792

:

between the 1st and the 2nd, which is

the have is the negative habits that

793

:

they created over the decades and the

negative emotions that it triggers.

794

:

You are very mistaken, they

still have it, but they.

795

:

created the extra level between

the second and the third, and they

796

:

compound from there, they top their

energy from there, they harvest.

797

:

And even the tiny thing,

it's still compounds.

798

:

And then once you stop feeding the

negative, that's when it multiplies

799

:

the effect of the positive.

800

:

Don't think that the people

who succeed, they don't still

801

:

don't have the negative days.

802

:

It's impossible in the life that we live.

803

:

How many of like, how many people that

you met on your path thought that COVID

804

:

is the worst thing to happen to humans?

805

:

I hope it, I know that many people

lost members of their family.

806

:

I know that I really, uh, I

had, uh, both, uh, vaccines and

807

:

the second one was so horrible.

808

:

Uh, I was not sure that I would survive.

809

:

If to be honest, the second vaccine

was so bad for me, but when I have a

810

:

bag and I look, I'm like, okay, if not

COVID, we would not have the option

811

:

to have all these classes to learn

all the wisdom because they were,

812

:

uh, running the, the, the seminars.

813

:

In person, right?

814

:

We didn't have all these online

classes, the option to even have the

815

:

zoom meetings to talk to each other.

816

:

We didn't have before the COVID.

817

:

So if we change, you see, you

just see the positive thing.

818

:

And I started to reinforce it.

819

:

And now I see the COVID was there.

820

:

Actually, one of the best things to happen

because it completely transformed, uh,

821

:

the, the communication platforms for us.

822

:

We see the work.

823

:

Now, if you tell me you have

to come in person, I would be

824

:

like, I have to drive all the way

825

:

and we do it online.

826

:

The first time I would never

go in person because I'm like,

827

:

do I need to trust the person?

828

:

But before you didn't have the option.

829

:

Now you have the option.

830

:

So, uh, I just changed the perspective,

the meaning that I gave to the

831

:

pandemic and the, um, the lockdown,

and I see the outcome, which not

832

:

many people see, they neglected.

833

:

But through that, I started to compound

and every time, what it does to, to

834

:

the body, by the way, So, it helps you

to start to overview everything which

835

:

you labeled as negative to start to

see, oh, okay, so if the COVID that I

836

:

thought completely is negative actually

has extremely positive, um, part.

837

:

Is it possible that other things that

I see through completely negative have

838

:

any tiny, tiny, tiny piece off positive?

839

:

You see, I already ceded the um, the

shift to re to rewatch everything and to

840

:

rewire how I see the events that happened

and I labeled all of them as negative.

841

:

Um, the tomorrow depends how

you spend your time today.

842

:

Today depends how you

spend your time yesterday.

843

:

Never overestimate what you can

do up to tomorrow, but never

844

:

underestimate what you can do today.

845

:

you do right now will

compound in one week.

846

:

Mike: Yeah.

847

:

Yeah, no, for sure.

848

:

I think it's a really interesting,

it's, it's a fantastic approach.

849

:

And again, it's this, what's,

what's really resonating for me is

850

:

this whole idea of how to, it's,

it's a real reframing, right?

851

:

It's not, it's not just in an artificial

way, thinking about how can one make

852

:

the most out of a difficult situation,

but it's the real important thing.

853

:

notion of growing through stress, of

taking a stressful situation and looking

854

:

for how one can voluntarily confront the

stressful situation and overcome it, you

855

:

know, wrestle with it, fight with it.

856

:

Again, like hiking, you're, you're

hiking, you're putting, you're expending

857

:

the effort with a goal in mind and it's

painful, but you put up with it, you

858

:

prove to yourself that you can do it.

859

:

I think that's a big part of it, is I

think that people don't give themselves

860

:

enough credit for having the internal

strength and spirit and energy, but

861

:

once they do exert the effort, They

can remind themselves, hopefully, or

862

:

prove to themselves that, yes, they

can do it, that they do have the

863

:

internal resources that they can tap

into in order to achieve their goals.

864

:

Axa: Yeah, that's very important

to see the difference, by the

865

:

way, between the patients.

866

:

And between the tolerance between the

forgiveness and between the tolerance.

867

:

Um, if, when you go through the

stress, um, more tasks you deal

868

:

with, it's stressy for your body.

869

:

That's why when we are kids and,

uh, when you are in your, um.

870

:

the, the early ages, your, um,

cautious is not that mature.

871

:

So you have the tendency to generalize and

you don't generalize based on the emotions

872

:

you generalize based on the emotion.

873

:

But what also happens, we

generalize the term wise.

874

:

Like the work, study, environment,

uh, people love relationship.

875

:

And then you attach the

emotion to the term.

876

:

That's why people think that

the relationship are harmful.

877

:

They are painful, but it is essential

to seek for, uh, to seek love.

878

:

So we go through the life.

879

:

Expecting that somebody would

love us while we are scared

880

:

to be in the relationship.

881

:

We need to dissect everything

that you have in one group and

882

:

understand the labels come and

go depending on where you are.

883

:

Depending on the person, don't say that.

884

:

Let's say, uh, females.

885

:

We have the tendency to say men

are this and the opposite, right?

886

:

We have that tendency.

887

:

Men can men are more focused.

888

:

Females can multiply.

889

:

Female can multiply.

890

:

Everybody says that, but it's

so individual and it changes.

891

:

But when you have that, um, that mindset

to generalize the things you don't

892

:

give the option to yourself to progress

and to to see the world as changing.

893

:

If I didn't succeed today, it doesn't

mean that I will not succeed tomorrow.

894

:

If I do one step today, it doesn't mean

that I cannot do the second step tomorrow.

895

:

The progress comes from,

uh, when you continue.

896

:

But when you continue to do the dumb

things, you will multiply the dumb things.

897

:

So doing the right things

is essential as well.

898

:

Normally people think, Oh, I will

do the consistency is the key.

899

:

No, no, no, no.

900

:

If you do the dumb thing consistently, you

will multiply the dumb thing consistently.

901

:

And you will think that It doesn't work.

902

:

It doesn't work to do

the dumb things, period.

903

:

Mike: Hundred

904

:

Axa: percent.

905

:

No one would disagree with that.

906

:

So if you.

907

:

Bake the cake.

908

:

If you have the recipe and if you skip one

ingredient, you will never bake the cake.

909

:

The same is for every process

that you do in your life.

910

:

There are particular ingredients

that you have to follow.

911

:

Not only the ingredients, you cannot mix

all of them and expect to have best cake.

912

:

If the ingredients needs to be mixed

step by step, these two together, these

913

:

two together, then you have to add the

third to this and the fourth to this.

914

:

And then there is a process

for everything in the world.

915

:

If you need to transform your life.

916

:

See what's your bigger picture, then

dissect the bigger picture and chunk

917

:

it and have to do the list to do the

list relates to the bigger picture.

918

:

That's the difference to do the

list to do list is linked to the

919

:

bigger picture to complete the list

is linked to the bigger picture.

920

:

Chopped chapters.

921

:

The book is not the complete book.

922

:

It has the chapters.

923

:

Every chapter has the title.

924

:

Every title has subtitle.

925

:

The life, the processes,

they have the subtitles.

926

:

They have the consequences.

927

:

What you put in depending on your state.

928

:

You will have the results.

929

:

Start to component the positive thing.

930

:

Learn all the ingredients that

you need to succeed and stop doing

931

:

the the the sabotaging efforts.

932

:

Stop it.

933

:

Because otherwise you can never reframe

and reshape the path that you go.

934

:

You will just slide right back slowly,

but slide right back to your comfort

935

:

zone, then start again and slide back.

936

:

And you would think that the

progress, that's the progress.

937

:

That's not the progress.

938

:

The progress is when you, you are one

level, uh, higher Next period of time when

939

:

there is a milestone have the milestones

and if you achieve it then reward yourself

940

:

because when you said we don't reward

ourself so often There is a Tricky part

941

:

in that because whatever you revert for,

you will, uh, start to multiply that.

942

:

Do you revert yourself the right way?

943

:

If you revert yourself for the

effort, you will put the effort.

944

:

If you revert yourself for the uh,

outcome, you will put the efforts

945

:

the right way for the outcome because

the links in our brain goes as far as

946

:

you created the complete path because

you have the, the trigger and you

947

:

have the, uh, the, um, the outcome.

948

:

If you have the chops in between,

which don't have the progress, you will

949

:

come Halfway and you will uh reward

yourself and then your brain, uh read.

950

:

Oh, okay I'm rewarded for the efforts

the next time you will go halfway

951

:

and you will reward yourself without

realizing What do I reward myself for?

952

:

That's why you start with the same to

do list and you end the year with the

953

:

same to do list have the Complete list,

have to complete list, have the bigger

954

:

picture, uh, dissected, see what is the

next goal and have add to your agenda

955

:

every single day to complete list.

956

:

Mike: Yeah, for sure.

957

:

Absolutely.

958

:

Yeah, I think it also

speaks to the importance.

959

:

And I think for viewers and listeners

to understand that in terms of positive

960

:

emotion, you know, and we would all

hope to optimize our experience of

961

:

positive emotion, you know, in a healthy

way that really, there's two kinds.

962

:

And if we talk about The neurotransmitter

dopamine is part of the system

963

:

that brings positive emotion.

964

:

There's this division in terms of

the dopamine systems on the one hand,

965

:

being involved with what we might

call our appetite or consumptive

966

:

kind of pleasurable experiences

like, you know, eating dessert,

967

:

for example, after a nice meal.

968

:

Exactly.

969

:

Yeah.

970

:

And then also.

971

:

So there's, that's the one side, but

on the other side, there's the goal

972

:

directed achievement that, you know,

creates a dopamine in terms of, you

973

:

know, setting a goal and then going

step by step to achieve that goal.

974

:

And these are different systems, right?

975

:

And that, and that second one, that

goal oriented dopaminergic system that

976

:

brings positive emotion tends to be

more, in a way, it's more sustaining

977

:

because, you know, people chase the

first, um, Consumptive kind of appetite,

978

:

satiating kind of dopamine, you know,

whether it's sugar or, you know, other

979

:

kinds of pleasurable experiences, but

those don't tend to have the lasting

980

:

positive emotional effects that the

goal directed kinds of pursuits help

981

:

to, you know, Help us to achieve, right?

982

:

So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's really,

it's super interesting, and I'm really

983

:

appreciating understanding from you,

you know, a lot of your wisdom and

984

:

thoughts, um, and I was curious as

well, you know, from, in particular,

985

:

With regard to your book, are there

any specific other kinds of practical

986

:

suggestions that you have for how to

help people to, you know, achieve these

987

:

kinds of things that you're describing?

988

:

Axa: I actually described the innovative

technique, which I used while I

989

:

was going through very dark times.

990

:

I was, um, I was not, I

didn't know where I was.

991

:

I completely lost the

connection to the world.

992

:

I didn't.

993

:

seem even the end off the tunnel.

994

:

I, um, so while I was going through

those hard times because I lost my dad

995

:

very accidental, we didn't expect that.

996

:

Then another life changing

circumstance happened in our family.

997

:

I wish never happened.

998

:

Then I went through my parents.

999

:

Personal trauma.

:

01:09:55,746 --> 01:09:59,286

Then I moved to live to the

new country all by myself.

:

01:09:59,786 --> 01:10:05,706

Uh, I, I was trying to start my own

business while being in science for 15

:

01:10:05,716 --> 01:10:11,136

years, I did several inventions and I

thought I'm ready and I feel so bad.

:

01:10:11,466 --> 01:10:15,046

And everything was happening within

really very short period of time, six

:

01:10:15,046 --> 01:10:22,666

months, and I lost this safety, um,

inner balance, which I had in science.

:

01:10:23,126 --> 01:10:23,486

So.

:

01:10:24,796 --> 01:10:26,896

I was completely out of the scope.

:

01:10:26,946 --> 01:10:27,936

I didn't know.

:

01:10:28,296 --> 01:10:31,846

It's not like I didn't

even see the future.

:

01:10:31,886 --> 01:10:34,116

That was the scariest part.

:

01:10:34,626 --> 01:10:41,236

The future that I had in my mind, and I

tend to was completely destroyed, and I

:

01:10:41,236 --> 01:10:43,796

didn't have anything to replace it with.

:

01:10:44,176 --> 01:10:50,236

So I tapped into, uh, following

particular process during the day just

:

01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:54,116

to recover that safety and security.

:

01:10:55,271 --> 01:11:01,141

feeling within me without realizing

that I was completely rewiring my brain.

:

01:11:02,341 --> 01:11:09,751

And that's, I have to thank my, uh,

research experience because you learn

:

01:11:09,761 --> 01:11:15,681

how to, uh, read the literature, which

literature, by the way, to trust, because

:

01:11:15,701 --> 01:11:18,971

when you have the experience, that's

something that you transfer as well.

:

01:11:19,401 --> 01:11:23,946

And I start to learn that first

of all, Testosterone, which is the

:

01:11:24,036 --> 01:11:29,326

hormone, uh, the mostly considered

to be the reproductive hormone from,

:

01:11:29,406 --> 01:11:32,306

uh, for male, but we also have it.

:

01:11:32,356 --> 01:11:38,546

And one of the main functions of

testosterone is to provide our good

:

01:11:38,556 --> 01:11:44,496

mood, the bravery, the risk taking

while cortisol, which is the stress

:

01:11:44,496 --> 01:11:48,036

hormone, they have opposite dynamic.

:

01:11:48,296 --> 01:11:51,766

So whenever you have high

testosterone, cortisol drops

:

01:11:51,766 --> 01:11:54,096

down and the other way around.

:

01:11:54,126 --> 01:11:54,486

Why?

:

01:11:54,506 --> 01:11:59,301

Because Cortisol and testosterone,

they have the same basic molecule.

:

01:12:00,031 --> 01:12:02,521

They differ with the functional groups.

:

01:12:03,351 --> 01:12:07,441

So whenever your body starts to

produce testosterone, it doesn't have

:

01:12:07,441 --> 01:12:11,751

the same basic molecule to produce

cortisol, which is the stress hormone.

:

01:12:12,351 --> 01:12:15,981

And when I started to read the

literature, I was like, wow,

:

01:12:16,001 --> 01:12:19,291

the nature, nature is amazing.

:

01:12:19,321 --> 01:12:21,471

How it's created our body.

:

01:12:22,191 --> 01:12:26,861

And, uh, without realizing the

nature was just forcing me to.

:

01:12:27,371 --> 01:12:28,651

follow the process.

:

01:12:29,211 --> 01:12:34,391

If somebody is in very dark place,

they don't know how to continue.

:

01:12:34,421 --> 01:12:41,141

They are so stuck and procrastination

and anxiety is the daily feeling that

:

01:12:41,141 --> 01:12:43,231

they go and emotion that they go through.

:

01:12:43,481 --> 01:12:50,871

I encourage them to read the book because

together with describing the innovative

:

01:12:50,871 --> 01:12:58,741

technique, I found what Uh, I had from

my past that didn't let, uh, it go.

:

01:12:59,051 --> 01:13:03,321

That's why I was stuck because,

uh, through going, going through

:

01:13:03,321 --> 01:13:08,061

the darkness, uh, normally whenever

you go for the motivational videos,

:

01:13:08,281 --> 01:13:11,841

you hear this recommendation,

you need to let the past go.

:

01:13:11,921 --> 01:13:13,591

That was freaking me out.

:

01:13:13,591 --> 01:13:15,401

I was like, Please stop that.

:

01:13:17,571 --> 01:13:23,761

And, uh, only three, it took me three

and a half years of deep analysis

:

01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:27,171

to find out what I needed to let go.

:

01:13:27,541 --> 01:13:34,191

It took me one second to let it go

one second, but I, I came to that.

:

01:13:34,591 --> 01:13:39,991

So if you don't know, and you cannot

let the past go, it might happen that

:

01:13:40,231 --> 01:13:44,191

you are stuck with an answered question.

:

01:13:44,476 --> 01:13:46,296

What do you need to let go?

:

01:13:46,866 --> 01:13:55,226

Why you accumulated all that bargain from

your childhood that is, you cannot lift

:

01:13:55,276 --> 01:14:01,726

and it drags you down as a heavy weight

you carry from one year to another.

:

01:14:03,136 --> 01:14:05,246

I never recommend anyone let go.

:

01:14:05,486 --> 01:14:06,096

Never.

:

01:14:06,186 --> 01:14:11,736

I always say before you understand

what you need to let go, you will carry

:

01:14:11,736 --> 01:14:13,736

that bargain from one year to another.

:

01:14:13,756 --> 01:14:14,856

And by the way.

:

01:14:15,696 --> 01:14:17,086

It will become heavier.

:

01:14:17,106 --> 01:14:17,526

Why?

:

01:14:17,936 --> 01:14:22,996

Because you add to the same

weight every single day.

:

01:14:22,996 --> 01:14:27,246

It becomes heavier and

you become weaker again.

:

01:14:27,276 --> 01:14:30,606

The same balance that we have

the negative and the positive.

:

01:14:30,706 --> 01:14:34,756

So you don't compound from the positive

and you compound from the negative.

:

01:14:34,766 --> 01:14:35,786

You become weaker.

:

01:14:36,106 --> 01:14:38,536

Your weight becomes heavier.

:

01:14:39,396 --> 01:14:43,516

And once you know the biochemistry,

because, uh, I studied for the.

:

01:14:43,686 --> 01:14:46,306

as a human biology biologist.

:

01:14:46,306 --> 01:14:49,906

So that helped me to understand

what happens within me.

:

01:14:50,176 --> 01:14:54,606

And by the way, because you talked back

and thanks for that, for a dopamine,

:

01:14:54,616 --> 01:14:58,036

dopamine is the neurotransmitter dopamine.

:

01:14:58,226 --> 01:15:01,326

We release only when we

assess the situation.

:

01:15:01,556 --> 01:15:08,456

So dopamine can, uh, be produced either

between the second or the third level.

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01:15:08,661 --> 01:15:10,161

That's where the magic happens.

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01:15:10,161 --> 01:15:10,921

That's what I said.

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01:15:11,241 --> 01:15:14,841

That's only where the magic can

happen, because that's what you can

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01:15:14,901 --> 01:15:16,971

influence and you can break the habit.

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01:15:17,551 --> 01:15:22,361

And serotonin, which is the

happiness hormone, it is

:

01:15:22,371 --> 01:15:25,031

produced 90 percent in our gut.

:

01:15:26,306 --> 01:15:34,006

If you don't eat healthy, you start to

cover 90 percent with something which

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01:15:34,016 --> 01:15:41,206

gives you 10 percent reward right away

and you cover the 90 percent with that.

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01:15:41,556 --> 01:15:42,276

How?

:

01:15:42,936 --> 01:15:49,086

How high the chances are, whatever

can cover only 10% to cover 90%.

:

01:15:49,356 --> 01:15:58,046

So you have to multiply whatever gives

10%, nine times to have the same reward,

:

01:15:58,646 --> 01:16:03,236

which you can have from serotonin,

which is produced from the Healthy Gut.

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01:16:03,236 --> 01:16:03,296

Hmm.

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01:16:03,626 --> 01:16:04,706

So if you.

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01:16:05,211 --> 01:16:10,771

Receive the reward from eating the

sweet, or some people go for the tobacco.

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01:16:11,151 --> 01:16:15,431

Some people go for alcohol or they

gamble, or they go for the social.

:

01:16:15,491 --> 01:16:20,371

Why people are so stuck and they

are addicted to social media because

:

01:16:20,371 --> 01:16:26,891

they cover 100 percent of serotonin

through 10 percent of serotonin,

:

01:16:27,381 --> 01:16:29,841

which gives the fast reward.

:

01:16:30,161 --> 01:16:32,591

And we multiply it nine times.

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01:16:32,791 --> 01:16:36,601

And then we are, uh,

Amazed that we are stuck.

:

01:16:36,641 --> 01:16:40,611

No, the body is the cloth cycle.

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01:16:40,621 --> 01:16:45,451

Please remember that what you put

in, it will, depending on the state

:

01:16:45,451 --> 01:16:50,421

you are at with your biochemistry,

you will have the reward.

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01:16:50,451 --> 01:16:52,511

You will harvest that change.

:

01:16:52,511 --> 01:16:57,041

That healthy gut is not a luxury.

:

01:16:57,111 --> 01:17:01,851

It's a must without that

you will stay in that cycle.

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01:17:02,111 --> 01:17:04,131

The richest cycle that you.

:

01:17:04,601 --> 01:17:05,991

Don't see the outcome.

:

01:17:06,311 --> 01:17:07,261

I had the same.

:

01:17:07,541 --> 01:17:14,481

So if you don't see the outcome and you

are so stuck and unhappy, read my book.

:

01:17:14,711 --> 01:17:20,050

It will help you how to rewire

your brain and how to stop.

:

01:17:20,651 --> 01:17:23,621

It's not like you woke up in the

morning and you decided, I need

:

01:17:23,621 --> 01:17:25,191

to stop calling it a comfort zone.

:

01:17:25,861 --> 01:17:27,441

No, it doesn't work that way.

:

01:17:27,961 --> 01:17:32,796

The title completely fools you.

:

01:17:32,796 --> 01:17:38,181

And I'm thinking about changing the

title, if to be honest, because I

:

01:17:38,181 --> 01:17:42,151

hear so many people say, Oh, from the

title, I know what is the book about.

:

01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:44,671

And I'm like, that's so not true.

:

01:17:45,216 --> 01:17:50,346

So I'm thinking to change because

people miss the complete, the entire

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01:17:50,386 --> 01:17:55,086

process, how to rewire your brain

versus the assumption that they

:

01:17:55,096 --> 01:17:58,436

have with the, uh, how to change.

:

01:17:58,436 --> 01:18:01,596

Just only rename it the same process.

:

01:18:01,596 --> 01:18:05,766

We go through the day, you call it

the comfort zone, your brain assumes.

:

01:18:06,531 --> 01:18:12,591

You see, you assumed from the title of

my book, what is my book about the same

:

01:18:13,201 --> 01:18:20,621

because the process, how your brain works,

one word, stop calling it comfort zone,

:

01:18:20,641 --> 01:18:27,961

you assumed, and you went down the spiral,

everything is comes from the trigger.

:

01:18:28,596 --> 01:18:30,076

Mike: Yeah, no, for sure.

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01:18:30,126 --> 01:18:31,056

Well, and thanks.

:

01:18:31,386 --> 01:18:32,236

Thanks for sharing.

:

01:18:32,246 --> 01:18:33,316

You know, some of your story.

:

01:18:33,316 --> 01:18:35,096

I think I can relate to that.

:

01:18:35,096 --> 01:18:38,886

I think everyone's going to if they

haven't already have to navigate

:

01:18:39,116 --> 01:18:41,126

major life challenges and crises.

:

01:18:41,126 --> 01:18:47,216

And so understanding how again, we've

talked a lot today about how to confront

:

01:18:47,216 --> 01:18:51,016

challenges voluntarily, even things

that we would rather not go through.

:

01:18:51,016 --> 01:18:55,146

But understanding that if we keep going,

you know, we can get to the other end,

:

01:18:55,146 --> 01:18:59,056

and then we'll probably be able to look

back and say, Oh, we In some sense, you

:

01:18:59,056 --> 01:19:03,096

know, you hear it over and over again,

you know, people, famous people, people

:

01:19:03,096 --> 01:19:06,736

who are very wise will often say if

they look back on their life and life

:

01:19:06,736 --> 01:19:10,116

experiences, it was some of the most

difficult things that they went through

:

01:19:10,496 --> 01:19:13,786

that they probably at the time would have

chosen to not go through those things.

:

01:19:14,076 --> 01:19:17,066

But when they look back, they think

that those were some of the most

:

01:19:17,425 --> 01:19:22,036

important things in their lives to make

them who they have ended up being, you

:

01:19:22,036 --> 01:19:27,106

know, and to have helped them to grow

through that and to, um, to mature

:

01:19:27,106 --> 01:19:31,786

into, you know, healthy individuals,

um, but maybe I see your book up.

:

01:19:31,806 --> 01:19:35,386

I mean, I think the title is great, and I

think part of what makes it attractive and

:

01:19:35,386 --> 01:19:41,106

appealing is that it does bring questions

to mind, and it encourages someone to

:

01:19:41,106 --> 01:19:46,626

want to read about, you know, what exactly

you're intending to convey with the title.

:

01:19:46,626 --> 01:19:48,556

I see the book behind

you there on the shelf.

:

01:19:48,556 --> 01:19:51,866

Do you mind just holding it up to the

camera so that viewers can have a look?

:

01:19:51,896 --> 01:19:58,016

And, um, yeah, and I think, you know, I'd

really encourage people to explore your

:

01:19:58,016 --> 01:20:00,326

book, read your book, explore you online.

:

01:20:00,326 --> 01:20:06,721

And, um, again, I think what's, what I'm

really, um, excited about, you know, um,

:

01:20:06,921 --> 01:20:11,751

Our audience being able to explore more

is, as you say, you know, getting from the

:

01:20:11,751 --> 01:20:13,481

second to the third level in your model.

:

01:20:13,481 --> 01:20:16,621

And I'm sure that, you know, you

explain that in detail in the book.

:

01:20:16,971 --> 01:20:21,021

Um, maybe if you don't mind, um,

unless maybe let's look at is

:

01:20:21,050 --> 01:20:23,001

before we look towards wrapping up.

:

01:20:23,001 --> 01:20:26,591

Is there, um, what do you think would

be the most important takeaway from

:

01:20:26,591 --> 01:20:30,961

our discussion that you would want

listeners and viewers to, to, um,

:

01:20:30,981 --> 01:20:32,931

to gain from our conversation today?

:

01:20:34,706 --> 01:20:39,256

Axa: Normally I go with, um, uh,

one of the best advices that I

:

01:20:39,296 --> 01:20:44,996

heard in my life, fail fast, but,

uh, lately I completely shifted.

:

01:20:45,026 --> 01:20:51,236

And at the moment I am very much into,

uh, life is unfair and accept that.

:

01:20:51,986 --> 01:20:58,416

And where is the magic actually, because

we complain about the life unfairness

:

01:20:58,436 --> 01:21:00,675

only when it's not in our favor.

:

01:21:01,336 --> 01:21:04,076

If we worked hard, if you started.

:

01:21:06,136 --> 01:21:11,636

and you went to the exam and you got

the A grade, you would never come

:

01:21:11,666 --> 01:21:13,406

out and say, Oh, it was so unfair.

:

01:21:13,416 --> 01:21:18,606

You would be like, I studied so much,

but let's say the professor decided

:

01:21:18,616 --> 01:21:20,866

that life's supposed to be fair.

:

01:21:21,146 --> 01:21:24,436

And the professor would come

and say, okay, today, uh,

:

01:21:24,506 --> 01:21:26,876

everyone would get the A grade.

:

01:21:26,916 --> 01:21:28,456

Are you going to be happy with that?

:

01:21:28,616 --> 01:21:30,586

No, you are going to be unhappy with that.

:

01:21:30,966 --> 01:21:35,446

So wherever the, uh,

Unfairness of the life ends.

:

01:21:35,696 --> 01:21:41,516

That's where your unfair advantage

starts, because unlike, uh, the efforts

:

01:21:41,526 --> 01:21:48,366

that you put in the, the rewards,

the rewards you will, uh, harvest.

:

01:21:48,756 --> 01:21:57,406

So that's where the, uh, you have to break

that mentality that the life is unfair.

:

01:21:57,566 --> 01:21:58,546

Life is unfair.

:

01:21:58,616 --> 01:21:59,006

It's.

:

01:21:59,925 --> 01:22:01,256

It's never going to change.

:

01:22:01,266 --> 01:22:05,966

It's not that change the perspective,

how you see, but I encourage you to

:

01:22:05,966 --> 01:22:08,316

go for the second and the third level.

:

01:22:08,326 --> 01:22:13,496

This is where you are, because if you are

in life is unfair, you have to accept it.

:

01:22:13,836 --> 01:22:16,636

You are between the first

and the second level.

:

01:22:17,116 --> 01:22:22,141

You are not the in the superpower

level, which is coming between the

:

01:22:22,141 --> 01:22:24,581

second and the third life is unfair.

:

01:22:24,811 --> 01:22:30,571

I'll take it in my and use it in my

advantage because then you cannot stop it.

:

01:22:30,841 --> 01:22:34,861

Stop me and the progress

that I can create for myself.

:

01:22:35,151 --> 01:22:39,081

It's unproportional because you cannot.

:

01:22:40,836 --> 01:22:44,586

It's unproportional as

it compounds as well.

:

01:22:44,906 --> 01:22:50,976

So if life is unfair, never stop there

and say, Oh, life is unfair and blah,

:

01:22:50,976 --> 01:22:52,876

blah, blah, blah, whatever we go with.

:

01:22:53,036 --> 01:22:55,186

I came to the country all by myself.

:

01:22:55,226 --> 01:22:55,866

I was not prepared.

:

01:22:56,116 --> 01:23:00,076

Fluent with English because in science

normally you don't need to speak.

:

01:23:00,086 --> 01:23:02,456

You are in your laboratories

all the time, right?

:

01:23:02,686 --> 01:23:04,146

I was perfect with writing.

:

01:23:04,246 --> 01:23:10,026

It took me two months to write the book

because I started to write Edit and create

:

01:23:10,336 --> 01:23:13,476

the content like writing for 20 years.

:

01:23:13,506 --> 01:23:18,776

It took me two months to write the

book but Speaking was not my, uh, part.

:

01:23:19,486 --> 01:23:25,526

I pushed my limits, not only to

speak the language, which is third

:

01:23:25,526 --> 01:23:30,736

language, by the way, for me, but

also where the life was unfair.

:

01:23:31,686 --> 01:23:37,896

And here is the, the, the best key

that ever anyone can hear, because I

:

01:23:37,896 --> 01:23:43,536

needed to stand out because I was not

very fluent in English, so I realized

:

01:23:43,536 --> 01:23:45,616

that I need to stand out differently.

:

01:23:47,001 --> 01:23:52,851

I spent three years studying all the

literature and all the talks that exist,

:

01:23:53,091 --> 01:23:58,071

and I found two things which no one

speaks about, and I'm going for TEDx.

:

01:23:59,131 --> 01:23:59,701

Mike: Good for you.

:

01:24:00,191 --> 01:24:06,636

Axa: Wherever the unfairness, injustice

of the life, um, starts and ends.

:

01:24:06,936 --> 01:24:09,226

Doesn't matter where the border is.

:

01:24:09,576 --> 01:24:14,036

This is where your unfair advantage

starts, because if I would be fluent

:

01:24:14,046 --> 01:24:20,106

in English, I would have the advantage

and I would never not bother myself.

:

01:24:20,166 --> 01:24:20,486

Okay.

:

01:24:20,486 --> 01:24:21,366

What now?

:

01:24:21,386 --> 01:24:24,586

Because I would have,

I would be satisfied.

:

01:24:25,101 --> 01:24:29,871

But I needed to stand out differently

because I have the accent and people

:

01:24:29,891 --> 01:24:31,831

insult me all the time for my accent.

:

01:24:31,831 --> 01:24:36,201

And I'm like, okay, do you think I cared?

:

01:24:36,241 --> 01:24:39,571

I never cared because I

was like, okay, you can.

:

01:24:40,271 --> 01:24:40,921

I see.

:

01:24:41,146 --> 01:24:43,786

I have different values in my life.

:

01:24:44,596 --> 01:24:49,396

What you see as advantage,

I see as disadvantage.

:

01:24:49,846 --> 01:24:50,175

What?

:

01:24:50,175 --> 01:24:52,276

See, you see as disadvantage.

:

01:24:52,306 --> 01:24:54,256

I see where my advantage is.

:

01:24:54,766 --> 01:25:00,706

You pushed me and now I need

to improve my English and that.

:

01:25:00,736 --> 01:25:02,175

What was my nudge?

:

01:25:03,251 --> 01:25:08,431

So if life is unfair, it doesn't

mean that that's not where

:

01:25:08,431 --> 01:25:10,771

your break through can happen.

:

01:25:10,831 --> 01:25:15,621

Don't let the unfairness of

the life to be the breakdown.

:

01:25:15,831 --> 01:25:19,111

Turn it into the breakthrough point.

:

01:25:19,531 --> 01:25:20,061

Mike: Mm hmm.

:

01:25:20,181 --> 01:25:21,591

Oh, yeah, no, that's so well put.

:

01:25:21,621 --> 01:25:24,911

And your English is excellent, by

the way, I think it's it's wonderful.

:

01:25:24,911 --> 01:25:28,391

And it's, again, a testament to

what you're saying about meeting the

:

01:25:28,391 --> 01:25:30,671

challenges of learning a new language.

:

01:25:30,671 --> 01:25:33,951

And, you know, as I understand, English

is very difficult language to learn.

:

01:25:33,951 --> 01:25:35,381

And so you're doing really well.

:

01:25:35,381 --> 01:25:36,461

It's fantastic.

:

01:25:38,221 --> 01:25:40,421

Yeah, and maybe you can share also.

:

01:25:40,701 --> 01:25:50,196

So, again, your book is, um, Uh,

it's, um, stop thinking, sorry, is

:

01:25:50,196 --> 01:25:53,406

it stop calling it comfort zone?

:

01:25:53,406 --> 01:25:57,266

Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that

for, for the listeners, the people

:

01:25:57,266 --> 01:26:00,866

that don't have the benefit of

being able to see you hold it up.

:

01:26:00,886 --> 01:26:02,396

So stop calling it comfort zone.

:

01:26:02,861 --> 01:26:06,571

And maybe you can also let us know

where can viewers and listeners

:

01:26:06,571 --> 01:26:10,300

find out more about your work, your

book, and other aspects of your

:

01:26:10,300 --> 01:26:11,991

work and connect with you online.

:

01:26:12,351 --> 01:26:15,951

We can put links in the show notes

below that people can check out,

:

01:26:15,951 --> 01:26:19,491

but anywhere else that you want to

emphasize that people can look up

:

01:26:19,511 --> 01:26:21,356

your work and follow you online.

:

01:26:22,616 --> 01:26:27,366

Axa: Online, I'm very active on LinkedIn,

so they can approach me the book,

:

01:26:27,425 --> 01:26:29,476

especially if they want the hard copy.

:

01:26:29,656 --> 01:26:30,736

It's on Amazon.

:

01:26:30,996 --> 01:26:35,596

But I also have the opting the landing

page where they can at the moment.

:

01:26:35,606 --> 01:26:39,896

The book is under 90 percent

sales for the season.

:

01:26:40,346 --> 01:26:43,816

And also I want people to benefit

because I'm already writing

:

01:26:43,826 --> 01:26:48,886

the 2nd book, which completely

explains what happens in our body.

:

01:26:48,896 --> 01:26:48,956

Thank you.

:

01:26:49,081 --> 01:26:55,011

on the cell level when we eat a sugar

and all the transformation on the hormone

:

01:26:55,011 --> 01:27:01,431

level and how it affects and, uh, all

that I learned while I was in science for

:

01:27:01,431 --> 01:27:03,671

several years working on the cell level.

:

01:27:04,161 --> 01:27:09,981

Um, so I really Really want people to

benefit from the book because happier

:

01:27:09,981 --> 01:27:16,800

people around me better life around me

so they can get it there is a Promotional

:

01:27:16,861 --> 01:27:23,691

code that they can use like you 100 So

be yeah be on time because uh, it will

:

01:27:23,691 --> 01:27:28,531

be just only for january In february

it goes back to the regular price

:

01:27:28,571 --> 01:27:33,121

or catch the catch the chance That's

where the unfair advantage starts.

:

01:27:33,241 --> 01:27:33,921

Mike: Ah, perfect.

:

01:27:33,931 --> 01:27:36,631

So, sorry, can you just spell

out the promotional code?

:

01:27:37,211 --> 01:27:38,641

Axa: Lucky100.

:

01:27:39,251 --> 01:27:39,641

Mike: Lucky.

:

01:27:39,651 --> 01:27:42,291

L U C K Y 1 0 0.

:

01:27:42,381 --> 01:27:42,701

Awesome.

:

01:27:43,351 --> 01:27:43,661

Love it.

:

01:27:43,691 --> 01:27:44,050

Okay.

:

01:27:44,050 --> 01:27:45,391

That's, that's fantastic.

:

01:27:45,391 --> 01:27:46,361

Well, Dr.

:

01:27:46,361 --> 01:27:48,281

Yox, thank you so much once again.

:

01:27:48,311 --> 01:27:50,431

It's been such a fascinating conversation.

:

01:27:50,451 --> 01:27:54,141

I've learned a lot and I know our

viewers and listeners will really be

:

01:27:54,151 --> 01:27:58,101

able to learn, kind of learn a lot

from your wisdom, you know, your life

:

01:27:58,101 --> 01:28:02,081

experience and the contents of your

book that you so kindly summarized for

:

01:28:02,081 --> 01:28:06,521

us here and suggested actionable items

that people can, you know, Can take and

:

01:28:06,521 --> 01:28:10,851

incorporate into their lives and perhaps,

you know, build into their New Year's

:

01:28:10,851 --> 01:28:17,091

resolutions as we go, you know, into,

um,:

:

01:28:17,091 --> 01:28:18,621

to improve our health and wellness.

:

01:28:18,621 --> 01:28:23,691

So again, thanks so much for joining me

today on the Neuro Stimulation Podcast,

:

01:28:23,991 --> 01:28:28,411

um, for viewers and listeners, uh, please,

yeah, do check out the show notes below.

:

01:28:28,411 --> 01:28:30,621

There'll be links to more of Dr.

:

01:28:30,631 --> 01:28:36,811

Yock's, uh, content and how you can follow

her on social media and find out more

:

01:28:36,811 --> 01:28:40,981

about her book and where to purchase the

book and get the, use the promotional

:

01:28:40,981 --> 01:28:43,961

code that we've just outlined as well.

:

01:28:43,961 --> 01:28:45,261

So lucky 100.

:

01:28:45,791 --> 01:28:48,031

Um, again, thank you so much, Dr.

:

01:28:48,031 --> 01:28:48,381

Yachts.

:

01:28:48,381 --> 01:28:52,231

Really appreciate meeting you

and having a conversation today.

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01:28:52,511 --> 01:28:53,761

Axa: You have one life.

:

01:28:54,181 --> 01:28:55,011

Don't fail.

:

01:28:55,081 --> 01:28:56,671

You can fail on the goal.

:

01:28:57,101 --> 01:28:58,711

Don't fail in life.

:

01:28:59,436 --> 01:29:00,016

Keep going.

:

01:29:00,906 --> 01:29:01,446

Mike: Sounds good.

:

01:29:01,486 --> 01:29:02,006

I love it.

:

01:29:02,126 --> 01:29:02,556

I love it.

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01:29:02,566 --> 01:29:04,386

Such an encouraging message for people.

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Just keep going.

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Just one step at a time.

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Keep going and get from that first

to the second and then to the third

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level and, uh, and just always

look towards self improvement

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for improved health and wellness.

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Great.

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Okay.

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Thanks again.

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Thank you everyone for tuning in.

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I really appreciate your, your time

and your interest in your attention.

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Um, and Please remember to

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And we'll see you next time on the next

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Thanks again.

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Bye for now.

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The Neurostimulation Podcast
Welcome to The Neurostimulation Podcast, your go-to source for the latest in clinical neurostimulation! Here, we dive deep into the revolutionary techniques that are shaping the future of health care.

Whether you're a healthcare professional, a student, or simply passionate about neuroscience, this podcast will keep you informed, inspired, and connected with the evolving world of neurostimulation.

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Michael Passmore

Dr. Michael Passmore is a psychiatrist based in Vancouver, BC, with expertise in neurostimulation therapies. Having completed specialized training in multiple neurostimulation modalities, including electroconvulsive therapy at Duke University and transcranial magnetic stimulation at Harvard University, Dr. Passmore brings a robust clinical and academic background to his practice. Formerly the head of the neurostimulation program in the department of Psychiatry at Providence Health Care, Dr. Passmore now serves as a clinical associate professor at the University of British Columbia’s Department of Psychiatry. From his clinic, ZipStim Neurostimulation (zipstim.com), Dr. Passmore offers private, physician-supervised, home-based transcranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) treatments tailored to clients across Canada.​